An Hour of Innovation
An Hour of Innovation
This podcast explores the art and science of innovation through conversations with product, tech, and AI leaders, scientists, and innovators.
Sept. 8, 2026

How to Use AI Without Losing Your Ability to Think | Jolie Dobre

How to Use AI Without Losing Your Ability to Think | Jolie Dobre

AI can save time, but what happens to the skills you stop practicing?

In this episode of An Hour of Innovation podcast, Vit Lyoshin speaks with Jolie Dobre, author of Sustaining Human Intelligence: Keeping People Smart, Connected and Innovative in an AI-Driven Workforce, about how AI changes human thinking, professional expertise, team creativity, and organizational learning.

You’ll Learn:

* Why AI can make organizations more productive while making people less capable

* Cognitive offloading, skill decay, and the “ironies of automation”

* Why generative AI is different from GPS, calculators, and search engines

* How to decide what work is safe to delegate to AI

* Why junior employees may lose the practice needed to become experts

* Why polished AI output can hide real competence

* How AI can create premature consensus inside teams

* Why “human in the loop” can provide a false sense of security

* What healthy friction with AI looks like in real workflows

* How AI products should communicate uncertainty, evidence, and alternatives

* Why Jolie never delegates first-stage ideation to AI

Jolie Dobre is an author and UX/design professional focused on sustaining human intelligence in AI-driven workplaces. Her book explores how AI interfaces, workflows, and organizational culture can be designed so people stay smart, connected, and innovative while benefiting from AI.

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction

01:02 AI’s impact on human intelligence

03:49 Effects of AI on critical thinking and creativity

06:20 What work is generally safe to delegate to AI

10:27 Organizational culture and the importance of diversity in thinking

13:11 The challenge of entry-level skill development

15:58 Strategies for responsible AI integration in organizations

19:19 The importance of maintaining expertise and competence visibility

24:04 Research evidence on AI's impact on cognition

25:34 Using AI to enhance learning and development

28:06 The myth of human-in-the-loop as a safety net

33:26 Designing AI tools that support human decision-making

35:19 The importance of deliberate practice and friction with AI

39:33 Practices for working effectively with AI tools

41:18 Personal strategies for AI-enhanced creativity

42:35The book release details

44:53 Innovation Q&A

Connect with Jolie

* Website: https://human-centereddesign.com/

* Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0HD9VZ5W3?lv=shuf&bestFormat=true

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolie-dobre-2623951/

Connect with Vit

* Substack: https://anhourofinnovation.substack.com/

* LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vit-lyoshin/

* X: https://x.com/vitlyoshin

* Website: https://vitlyoshin.com/

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